Livre Discussão Sobre Técnicas/métodos/geral Sobre O Fisiculturismo.

[Visitante germusculo]

Diego;

não querendo voltar o tópico um pouco más..

voce comentou o uso do estimulante meio 'pesado' la, que vc usa ele em dias atipicos onde está extremamente cansado e quer treinar mas notei uma coisa estranha nele..

voce disse que chega a perder cerca de 2kg's quando usa esse estimulante

minha pergunta é: qual seria a vantagem de usar, tendo em vista que vc pode perder peso com isso, atrapalhar seu sono, prejudicar sua saude, por apenas UM treino

não seria muito mais benéfico seguir a dieta em casa e continuar o treino no outro dia? (desculpe a pergunta, só achei muito desnecessario o uso desse estimulante) e me veio a cabeça uma dica do coleman tbm.. 'perca um treino más nunca perca uma refeição' hehe

abraços!

[Leandro.x 22]

Realmente 300ui de insulina é coisa pra porra, mas como chegar a 275lb e 3% BF como Ron sem essa quantidade? kkkkkkkkk

Foi dessa maneira que pensei. Pra nós, meros mortais é SUPER MEGA MONSTER essa dosagem. Porém para um cara como Ron...

[axltijuca 207]

Rsrs, no getbig tem amador usando 500mg de Anadrol por dia... bagulho tenso.

[Leandro.x 22]

Rsrs, no getbig tem amador usando 500mg de Anadrol por dia... bagulho tenso.

O cara que falei dos 400mg de dianabol também era amador. Ninguém ta acreditando em mim

[Gusmão420 230]

500mg de anadrol é mais facil de acredita q 400mg de diana, uma dose minima de hemo na minha opinião é 150mg.

Tratamentos são usados geralmente 3mg/kg e por 6meses.

[Leandro.x 22]

Mandar 150mg de Hemo parece ser abomai

Como fica as funçoes hepaticas geralmente neste tipo de tratamento Gusmão ?

[axltijuca 207]

Na, figado é o de menos

nego tem medo de figado, lol. Na boa eu antes de começar a ciclar, quando era mais novo escutei todo tipo de historia cabuloza sobre AE´s, sobre dianabol, sobre stano, enfim, as teoricamente mais hepatoxicas

tudo balela. Depois de 1 ano on direto, com direito a stanozolol 90% do tempo, um ciclo de diana, etc, minhas taxas de TGP e TGO estão normais. Ter uma vida de night, bebendo todo fds fode mto mais o figado do que esteroides orais.

Logico, cada um é cada um, mas eu ja ouvi coisas toscas como passar mal por tomar diana, eu ja tomei 100mg de diana por dia, (na epoca fiz o ciclo 50mg por dia normal, mas tomei 100mg alguns dias) não senti nada, absolutamente nenhum mal estar.

Dizem que a longo prazo é muito mais preocupante vc verificar os seus rins do que o figado, em termos de AE´s...

Problema é o camarada que cicla com Diana, Stano, Trembolona e tem uma vida de night, nem que não seja frequente, mas bebe...

se beber frequentemente meu amigo, aquilo a longo prazo VAI te fuder, não tem jeito.

obs: alem de te fuder fisicamente, psicologicamente. Tente beber quando se esta em 150mg de Trenbo TSD.

[The Brutal 21]

Olhem esse artigo do nasser muito revelador !

like Nasser. He lies though. Until you run on the inside circle and are privy to certain things...you'll never know what the lifestyle is really like.

It's a shame when you ruin in for someone who has a positive (albeit delusional) vision of the sport. Many of these guys are train wrecks. Not all though.

A good amount of these guys are on as many recs as they are AAS compounds. A particular IFBB pro advocated that my best friend use Nubain pre-contest to "chill out" and said it worked great for him. He was doing my buddy's prep.

Many of these guys are so out there you have no idea. I've seen a top Olympia Competitor so high at a local show he couldn't even speak.

As for Nasser not using synthol? BS:

[ Q ] You mentioned in a recent radio interview that synthol is commonly used within pro bodybuilding. Now we are seeing an increasing number of non-competitive bodybuilders using this substance and most will agree that it looks unsightly. What are your thoughts on the way synthol is used among these people?

A problem in bodybuilding is that onstage as a amateur or a pro or offstage as a regular guy I have realized that in a lot of cases that when people take anabolic steroids or any kind of substance like synthol, which I have seen being used but never used myself, one application too many can make the body look ridiculous. People lose perspective that this is how they look.

Let us say a girl takes anabolic steroids and she gets harder, she gets more muscular and bigger and her muscles mature a little with time while she is working out and taking anabolic steroids, but from a certain point on it is one pill or one shot or one application of synthol too much and it starts looking really bad, dumb or uneven.

And so I think from a certain point on it goes in the wrong direction: too much of one thing. And bodybuilders always have a tendency to think the more they take, the better they will look. The more they eat the better they will grow, the more they sleep the better they will develop and the more they take the better they will be.

A lot of people take synthol if they are missing body parts. Let’s say a guy has relatively good biceps development but his triceps are missing. So then he inserts synthol, which is injected into the muscle, so his triceps muscles look bigger.

But he thinks the other way, that if he trains for three or four years maybe his triceps will never catch up to his biceps so he just injects some more oil and then he will have the missing body part. But again, if you don’t have the body part already developed the only thing you create is a lump. The lump does kind of look muscular but it looks like a big piece of lump and nothing else.

You see a lot of bodybuilders onstage who just have very washed out body parts. You often see shoulders and arms that look washed out but the rest of the body looks relatively hard and these washed out spots are where they put too much of the synthol. Just look at how washed out the arms are of bodybuilders whose arms are far less hard compared to other body parts – clearly a sign of excessive and regular use of synthol.

I think people are doing it everywhere. I hear that people, especially black guys, put it into their calves. Black guys have very high and short calves and the only two who really have good calves are basically Vince Taylor and Paul Dillet. So these other guys put synthol or inject steroids into their calves with needles, which creates scar tissue. Then when the scar tissue builds up they inject more synthol so in the end it looks somewhat like a muscle.

For sure it works in smaller body parts like the delts definitely better than in the back area and it works in the arms better than in the chest area. So a lot of people like to make improvements. Whatever it takes they will definitely try to do it.

Also there is also a thing called nubain. I would say that 80 percent of people in bodybuilding, pros and amateurs, are using or have used nubain in the course of their development. I luckily never used it. I went to use it one year and had someone send me some, but it never arrived – this was at the beginning of the ’90s.

It can help you to train very hard, which I learned through watching others who were using it. Basically you can inject it and you can work twice as hard. Let’s say you are working on your back and doing 20 sets in 45 minutes. You can do 50 or 60 sets and you can do these with biceps and everything else.

So a lot of people who have torn muscle groups, which does happen when you over stimulate them with weights or genetically it is not that stable to begin with, but in a lot of cases excessive nubain use is creating these tears. So it is not only anabolic steroids and synthol, it is also painkillers a lot of people are using.

Bodybuilding is a sport where you find a lot of drug addicts. They are former drug addicts and they have come into bodybuilding because they have always used needles and pills or they have done anabolic drugs before and they come over to bodybuilding. So there is no real borderline between being an alcoholic, a bodybuilder and a drug addict.

I know people who have to go every 30 minutes when they are in public to a public restroom to inject nubain because they are nubain addicts. They start using it in the beginning to train harder and longer but they end up using it to get a kick out of it, a high. And nubain is a synthetic drug, a morphine that is basically a cousin of heroin.

I talked to Chad Nichols about seven years ago and he told me that the average nubain bill for one bodybuilder in U.S. dollars is about 1600 dollars per month. I think nubain costs you way more money than synthol so I don’t think it is necessarily synthol that is the problem. Because synthol over applied makes a very un-aesthetic appearance but on the other side nubain is more dangerous because it is addictive and synthol is not.

A lot of bodybuilders here in the U.S. are also using ketamine on a regular basis. They mix ketamine with nubain and take anabolic steroids, take ecstasy and cocaine and then sometimes go with this whole combo and compete with it.

In most cases bodybuilders are just drug addicts – nothing more, nothing less. It’s not to put myself above them; it’s just how it is. And the main reason why people like myself don’t consume any kinds of drugs besides anabolic steroids, which I have been taking definitely, is to not become a drug addict.

I sometimes have problems stopping eating certain foods when I am on my diet so what problems would I have if I took all of these drugs on top of that? I would like to preserve myself and not subject myself to drug dependency like most people do here in this country.

[Budega 24]

500mg de anadrol é mais facil de acredita q 400mg de diana, uma dose minima de hemo na minha opinião é 150mg.

Tratamentos são usados geralmente 3mg/kg e por 6meses.

intao alguem do nosso peso tomaria 290 mg por dia?

tenho coragem n, tenho medo de arrumar problema no estomago

[Gusmão420 230]

Todos tem medo do figado pq não sabem como lidar com ele, com isotretinoina meu figado hj ta melhor q antes sem, pq eu soube como cuidar, apenas na dieta, até uso dianabol junto pois ele esta melhor q nunca.