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[Rocha1989 11]

Escroto em que sentido AlexYann ?

Espero que queria falar algo em termos "brutos" ... pq não vejo nada de escroto no ciclo do cara!

Abraços!

[Highpump 16]

Obrigado por acompanharem, Rocha1989 no caso da testosterona quanto mais você dividir a dosagem durante a semana melhor mais estável fica, estou pensando em dividir o cipionato em 3 shots e mandar junto com a trenbolona.

[Rocha1989 11]

Obrigado por acompanharem, Rocha1989 no caso da testosterona quanto mais você dividir a dosagem durante a semana melhor mais estável fica, estou pensando em dividir o cipionato em 3 shots e mandar junto com a trenbolona.

Compreendido meu amigo!

É que minha experiencia com Deposteron foi de apenas uma aplicação por semana!

Mas ta beleza, o ponto esta esclarecido!

Grande abraço e boa sorte!

[Hitch 727]

Não achei o ciclo tão absurdo, nos foruns gringos não é difícil ver esse tipo de protocolo, mas particularmente não gosto da ideia do stano por 12 semanas, vai detonar teu perfil lipídico provavelmente, eu já vi de perto o uso de stano por 8 semanas não alterar muito o colesterol e nem as enzimas hepáticas, mas 12 semanas é puxado, mas como não tenho nenhuma literatura concreta pra embasar minha indagação, vou ficar só observando hehe

Ah e só um adendo, quando se trata de problemas no figado a enzima chave é GAMA-GT, muita gente pensa que se TGO e TGP estiverem normais seu figado está normal e nem sempre é assim.

Sobre o fracionamento do cipionato é muito interessante para diminuir a ação da aromatase, que é muito maior em um shot semanal.

[Highpump 16]

No meu exame também tem esse hitch eu tinha discutido com o tijolo tava olhando um exame pós-ciclo q deu uma alterada de leve, queria era o furazabol mas isso parece lenda, outra coisa eu ganhei umas cápsulas de oxan e tava fazendo uma pesquisa achei algo interessante, queria tirar uma dúvida esse protocolo seria decente ?

Going to ask about anavar alone? READ THIS FIRST

Going to ask about anavar alone? READ THIS FIRST

By Dflood @ AR

I have seen about three threads a day in the past month on anavar alone, and they all turn into arguments involving the same parties....so let this just be a "guide" for an individual planning/considering using oxandrolone as a standalone compound.

First, id like to get a few things straight about var.

MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.

False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.

This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.

If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.

This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.

LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity

Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps

When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength

Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss

Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen .

CYCLE

Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

Cycle #1

Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8

Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12

Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12

Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #2

Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8

Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8

Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #3

Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8

Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8

Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

If bulking, Test Enanthate could be substituted for prop, and 100mg could be injected every 3-4 days...however, this could cause more bloating, and complicate PCT timing.

LIVER PROTECTION

Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid, and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most.

It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone .

1 - Milk Thistle

The classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin

2 - R ALA

A powerful antioxidant

3 - NAC

Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione

4 - Vitamin C and E

Antioxidants

5 - LOADS of water

Helps to flush out your entire system

LIPID PROTECTION

Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax...

1 - Flax Oil

Consuming lots of omega fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad.

2 - Policosanol

Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high.

3 - Niacin

Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of time.

I hope that people read this, and that it helps those doing their research to make the correct decision. If anyone sees any glaring errors, or has something important to add, hit me with a PM and ill do some editing.

Editado Junho 30, 2011 às 06:14 por Highpump

[danieldpr 0]

eu faria 1-8 de dura 5-10 de stano pra rasga, ou 10 ml de decaland 200mg/ml + 16 ml duratestoland 250mg/ml

Estrutura do ciclo:

1-8 1ml por semana de deca (ese pra ganha volume e força maxima)

1-8 2ml por semana de dura

1-8 2ml por semana de dura (ese pra força maxima e definiçao total)

5-10 6ml por semana de winstrol

[AAYM 9]

Achei bem escroto ou bruto como você mesmo disse, a parte de stano 12 semanas, nunca tinha visto isso...

escroto da minha cidade é uma coisa na sua é outra, calma rapaz....

[J_FR34K 3]

Nem sabia dessa onda de dividir a dosagem do cipionato sairia melhor, mas boa informação.

Abraços.